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Using the mailing list GEN-DE
The newsgroup soc.genealogy.german
is mirrored to a mailing list GEN-DE hosted at rootsweb.com
Before Aug15,1997 the mailing list was hosted at uni-karlsruhe.de for European
users and at Apple's eworld.com for non-European users.
Four different modes
GEN-DE comes in four different modes
Mail mode gen-de-L
Subscribers receive all postings as single messages. This means about 70-150
individual messages per day. If you subscribe in mail mode you should
take appropriate measures not to mix up your usual (personal) eMail with
messages from gen-de-L.
- Mime-Digest mode gen-de-D
Messages are gathered until the overall size exceeds about 32kB. At that
time the machine sends out so called Digests, consisting of all messages
gathered since the previous digest. Currently there are about 4 digests
per day. Each digest has the messages appended as attachments. Your
mailing software should be able to handle these.
- Non-Mime-Digest mode gen-de-NMD
For those wo can't handle or don't like the Mime-Digest described above.
Messages are just appended to each other resulting in a long list. This
is similar to the default mode we had on uni-karlsruhe/eworld before
- Index mode gen-de-i
For those with limited disk space. Indexes are sent out once a day. They
contain just the messages' subject, author, length and a reference
number. Use the reference number to retrieve a posting of interest at a
later time. Note that the subject lines are often set up rather poorly
How to subscribe
Choose the mode you want to subscribe to. For most people the
Mime-Digest seems to be the mode of choice.
Then set up the subscription message.Depending on the mode
there are four different addresses to send your subscription request to:
Leave the subject line blank. Put the word subscribe in the
message body. Use lowercase letters, no punctuation, just the single
word subscribe. If possible leave out any signature. All the machine
needs to know should be in the message headers your mailing software
sends with each message. You just need to choose the correct address and
write the word subscribe in the message body.
How to unsubscribe
By now you should know which mode you are in (Hint: The From: line will
tell you if you aren't sure). To unsubscribe just send the word
unsubscribe to one of the addresses given above.
The word is unsubscribe, not signoff, leave, nothing more or
things like that. Remember that you are talking to a machine.
It doesn't work?
The machine claims that you aren't on the list but sends tons of eMail
on and on? First check out if you sent your unsubscribe to the correct
address. You can't unsubscribe from Mail Mode if you are in Digest Mode.
This is the most common error.
Then check out if you sent your unsubscribe from the same address as you
once subscribed from. If the addresses don't match the machine won't
take you off the list. Otherwise everybody could unsubscribe everybody
else just to play tricks.
Sometimes Internet providers change their customers addresses. The old
address is still valid to receive messages, but every outgoing mail has
the new address. Compuserve.com and t-online.de for example changed from
numbers to real names. If you subscribed with a "number address" and
can't switch back you are unable to unsubscribe. In this case you should
send a message to the listowner at gen-de-Lfirstname.lastname@example.org
and ask for help.
How to change modes
If you want to switch from, say Mime-Digest to Non-Mime-Digest you would
first subscribe to the new mode, see if it works and then unsubscribe
from the old mode. Just follow the instructions for subscription /
Where to send the postings
No matter what mode you are in, postings, i.e. questions to all readers
or public comments, should go to gen-de-L@rootsweb.com. If you publicly
reply to a message try to keep the subject as it was. If you take the
digest subject ("GEN-DE-D Digest V97 #xxx") chances are high that your
response gets missed. Index mode users probably won't retrieve it and
newsgroup users will probably skip it. The original poster probably
won't read it. If you put up a question yourself try to use a good
subject for the same reasons.
No more messages
If you used to get messages from the list, but don't receive them anymore
you probably had eMail problems the past days (mailbox full, problems at
your service provider). If the machine fails to deliver 5 digests /
messages it removes your entry from the list. Don't take it personally
just subscribe again.
You may choose between
Rootsweb's Archive. The latter seems to be more complete.
Should be reported to
Don't send them to gen-de-L@rootsweb.com. Most people there won't be
able to help you anyway and chances are high that the listowner will
miss your call for assistance.
Letzte Änderung/Last update: 28-Feb-2000 (KPW)
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